Gums started receding from implant area

by ES
(Centennial, CO)

this was just before bone graft. Mar 2012

this was just before bone graft. Mar 2012

this was just before bone graft. Mar 2012 this today 7/22/12 as you can see the gum moved from implant and crown next to it..

I had 2 implants and bridge done, finished 2 years ago..These are in the very front, of my mouth, I am lucky that I don't have a huge smile otherwise I would look like a homeless person.. Gums started receding from implant area, went back to Periodontist, said we needed to do a bone graft, another $2,000.. This was done in March and there has been the bone graft has not worked..

Every time I go back there he says, it's still healing!! The entire abutment you can see. and the gum have continued to recede further. The gum receding is only around the implant area, So I'm thinking it has got to be something they did or didn't do.. I have enclosed pics..

What do you think my next plan of action should be? I was thinking maybe gum graft to cover the affected areas?? The periodontist has never said what we should do if this didn't work, even though I have gone back in complaining that it is getting worse..

I originally paid almost $12,000.. Now 2,000 for bone graft.. I am very unhappy.. Anything you can tell me would be greatly appreciated.. I am in good health, and don't smoke. So none of those other issues come into place. He did say it got an infection that's why it originally receded..

Thanks for your help,

ES Adams
iameadams@yahoo.com

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failed implants NEW
by: David

Those implants have failed and need to be removed. The bone will. ontinue to deteriate around them and cause more damage.

Recession around Implants NEW
by: Sharon B., RDH

Hi ES,

I'm afraid it looks as if the implants are not taking, or are failing. Perhaps another bone graft should be placed in the area. I am not sure that a gum graft would fix the problem, because the problem with the recession is what is going on deep under the gums against the implant. I would recommend having your implant specialist remove them and allow the area to heal, then replace the implants. Allowing it to progress further could cause irreversible structure damage to the gums and bone in that area which cannot be corrected even with new implants.

bone grafts NEW
by: ES

Sharon,

I had a bone graft before they started implants. Now this is the 2nd one. Do you have any idea why these both would fail?? Should I seek out another periodontist for a second opinion??

Thank you,

bone grafts NEW
by: ES

Sharon,

I had a bone graft before they started implants. Now this is the 2nd one. Do you have any idea why these both would fail?? Should I seek out another periodontist for a second opinion??

Thank you,

Graft Fail NEW
by: Sharon B., RDH

It could be any number of things - tobacco habits you may have, current health status and any prescription drugs, or just that your body does not accept the graft.

Re failed grafts NEW
by: ES

Don't Have never smoked , don't take any prescription or other drugs. Perfectly good health besides these bad grafts!! Brush, floss daily.. It has gotten worse douche the bone graft!! Very frustrated..followed all the directions that I was given..

lack of buccal bone on implants NEW
by: Anonymous

Your crowns look completely over contoured that can cause some periodontal (gum) problems over the long term. The other factor may be the lack of proper bone thickness on the buccal (front) side of the implant. If that bone is too thin in the initial placement of the implants, it will recede and continue to recede to look just like the photo of 07/12. With the amount of infection and inflammation visible in photo, you have no real choice but to remove the current implants and bridgework and have a proper base of bone built and then re-implant in the proper position. Implants using expansion and compression of smaller bone volumes would be a better choice to maintain esthetics in the anterior area. Good Luck, Dr Dan

Abutment exposed NEW
by: Kevin

I too have an implant with gumline receding, not only from around the implant, but also from each of the neighboring teeth, left and righ. I also, don't smoke and don't take drugs. I have done everything any dentist has advised which sounded reasonable. I have even gone so far as to have my own, living gum tissue graft over the worst part of the defect but it didn't live. I think my implant was done very hastily and soft of "ham fistedly" and I think it's too big but I can never get anyone to admit either (no dentist will every say anything bad about another). The donor site from the gum graft is some of the worst pain I've ever had and I've been through a back surgery before. I was advised I was getting my implant to preserve the integrity of the adjacent teeth, they wouldn't have to be "taken down" to accomodate a bridge, etc but now they have become affected by the implant as well. What's even worse, the crown which was made for my implant is really poor, looks nothing like my other teeth. So, realizing there are no guarentees, my advise would be to ask lots and lots of questions before anyone has an implant done. And further, my gumline recession appears to be progressive. It's still going. I had the implant done in 2005 and I am still losing ground. It seems to be never ending. At this point I am afraid I could not recommend dental implant treatment, much less this particular Dr., to anyone.

re:kevin NEW
by: E.S.

Kevin,
That's the problem no one will say another did anything wrong.. and I don't have another 12,000.. I'm thinking of contacting a malpractice attorney..
Because it's in the front of my mouth I have to do something,It's also caused other problems I have a customer service job, constantly in front of people, the stress associated from worrying all the time about people seeing, or them just falling out, and now they have to make something for gum tissue.. I'ts such a mess, you put your faith and money into these people and then they're like oh well it didn't work!! Very frustrating..


Dentist NEW
by: Anonymous

Where did you get this done?

teeth NEW
by: Anonymous

These dentist`s need stringing up, how horrendouse to leave people like this, your teeth are everything especially for women, take them to the cleaners pleaseeeeeee. good luck

teeth NEW
by: Anonymous

These dentist`s need stringing up, how horrendouse to leave people like this, your teeth are everything especially for women, take them to the cleaners pleaseeeeeee. good luck

Get Help Quick! NEW
by: Marianne

I have 7,8,9 and 10 all done and a shallow palate. Not only did the bone graphing fail but now the implants are too! They say it is because that area of the mouth does not have good blood flow so it is typical for vertical bone graphing to fail. It is to the point no dentist or specialist will touch me because if they remove the impants it may leave me with a cleft palate!!! I have no idea where to go now and I am active duty military. I have been saying for years it looks worse and they kept telling me it was cosmetic and now they have no idea what to do and tell me its chronic. So take my advise get a second opinion quickly before you end up like me. From what i have been reading i may have to geta Palatal Obturator just so I can speak by the time they figure out what to do. Any one in the Kansas area who specializes in this type of issue who thinks they may have a better prognosis Id be greatful to hear. Gonna go cry my heart out now :(

Receding gum on implants NEW
by: Charlie

It was like looking in the mirror - I have exactly the same problem. My implants were fitted in December 2012 and my crowns April 2013 (Previous to this I had bone taken from my hip to place in this area in April 2012). Right from the start my gums started receding and exposing what seemed to be the abutment - it has now receded further and I believe it is the actual implant that is exposed. I Have always been told that it is a settling in phase and thing will settle down?
I would be grateful to hear you latest news and has the problem been rectified?

Re: receding gums from implant.. NEW
by: ES

Just continued to get worse., all bone loss up the top abutment, the silver part, tissue gone also from crown on side. Adm going to have them removed, keep on putting it off cause I just hate dealing/ thinking abt what else will go wrong. Even my kids said think its about time you give up & ! Get dentures!! Thats sad..
They said the exact same thing to me, they' re settling in. (the implants..
Good luck Charlie...

Receding gum over implant NEW
by: Andy

Hi,I too had(removeable bridge)implants back in 1997,front top 4 teeth.The 2 front ones were larger than the other 2,which i believe is the reason they failed.One was removed within weeks of implanting as the gum receded more or less right away,but not before my dentist tried to rectify it with a "bone transplant" as he called it.The 2nd started to recede several years later and reached a point where it didn't seem to be receding anymore,that was roughly 5 or 6 years ago.I don't have any problems with gum disease as far as i can see but i'm quite sure if i approached a dentist,or whatever they are called these days,he/she would find something wrong at a very high cost as the nhs no longer fixes these things for free.

Failed implants NEW
by: Anonymous

The only choice you have now is to have a partial denture fitted for you instead of implants. Nothing else will work. Unless, of course, you decide to have a complete denture. However you must have enough alveolar bone to support it. If you continue to put up with the implant assisted fixed bridge, you will eventually lose all your upper bone support. Then even a complete denture will not stay in your mouth without a denture adhesive.

implants NEW
by: Anonymous

Think twice before getting implants...they never take responsibility when things go wrong...My dentist said i had to heal before he put in the implants..i felt it hadnt healed but he placed them there anyway and now my gum receded..i cant afford to have more work..i am very frustrated

ES, how are you doing? NEW
by: Anonymous

Hey ES, just wanted to see if you were able to resolve the very unfortunate situation with implants. My opinion (and I am an educated patient, not a physician or a dentist) is that you've got an infection on those implants which was never cleared. Hence, the second bone graft only made things worse. Bone grafts do not heal when infection is present. I think what you can do is have the implants removed, completely disinfect the area, let it heal for a few months and then do a block bone graft. This is the one from your hip area, it is an invasive procedure but with that much bone lost, that might be your only option. After that heals, reinsert the implants. This is terrible of course, because it is so complicated, time consuming and costly. I hope that you have it resolved by now, please share your update if you would and have a blessed day!

update 1/1/2015 NEW
by: ES

Had implants removed apr 2014, another bone graft no luck whatsoever. Have a "snap on smile" there now, they say not permanent but works good and goes way up into top on mouth as there is no/or very little bone left. Luckily i have a very small mouth, so you cant see the gum area. few option removable denture piece where they will have to make gum tissue like above to make up for loss and same thing but in a bridge type device, im hoping for something that stays in and is not removable, cause its a pain, eating brushing and all.. Big,big.. cost and no recourse, and all I get is oh well sorry that happened to you, and now I look like a toothless, homeless person when I take out "snap on smile" (luckily no one else sees this but me!!) wished I had known this to begin with, would have done something else.
Last person wrote maybe infection, no infection at any time during any of the procedures..
Good luck to all...

update 1/1/2015 NEW
by: ES

Had implants removed apr 2014, another bone graft no luck whatsoever. Have a "snap on smile" there now, they say not permanent but works good and goes way up into top on mouth as there is no/or very little bone left. Luckily i have a very small mouth, so you cant see the gum area. few option removable denture piece where they will have to make gum tissue like above to make up for loss and same thing but in a bridge type device, im hoping for something that stays in and is not removable, cause its a pain, eating brushing and all.. Big,big.. cost and no recourse, and all I get is oh well sorry that happened to you, and now I look like a toothless, homeless person when I take out "snap on smile" (luckily no one else sees this but me!!) wished I had known this to begin with, would have done something else.
Last person wrote maybe infection, no infection at any time during any of the procedures..
Good luck to all...

update 1/6/2015 NEW
by: ES

Had implants removed apr 2014. another bone graft no luck whatsoever. Have a "snap on smile" there now, they say not permanent but works good and goes way up into top on mouth as there is no/or very little bone left. Luckily i have a very small mouth, so you cant see the gum area. few option removable denture piece where they will have to make gum tissue like above to make up for loss and same thing but in a bridge type device, im hoping for something that stays in and is not removable, cause its a pain, eating brushing and all.. Big,big.. cost and no recourse, and all I get is oh well sorry that happened to you, and now I look like a toothless, homeless person when I take out "snap on smile" (luckily no one else sees this but me!!) wished I had known this to begin with, would have done something else.
Last person wrote maybe infection, no infection at any time during any of the procedures..
Good luck to all...

update 1/6/2015 NEW
by: ES

Had implants removed apr 2014. another bone graft no luck whatsoever. Have a "snap on smile" there now, they say not permanent but works good and goes way up into top on mouth as there is no/or very little bone left. Luckily i have a very small mouth, so you cant see the gum area. few option removable denture piece where they will have to make gum tissue like above to make up for loss and same thing but in a bridge type device, im hoping for something that stays in and is not removable, cause its a pain, eating brushing and all.. Big,big.. cost and no recourse, and all I get is oh well sorry that happened to you, and now I look like a toothless, homeless person when I take out "snap on smile" (luckily no one else sees this but me!!) wished I had known this to begin with, would have done something else.
Last person wrote maybe infection, no infection at any time during any of the procedures..
Good luck to all...

ES, sorry for your situation NEW
by: Anna

ES, I am sorry for what is happening to you! This sounds like a lot to deal with for anyone. It is very upsetting that bone grafts don't take. Does your dentist have any suggestions on why they won't take?
Snap on smile is good for a short time but really isn't permanent. Perhaps, you can have a bridge done, even with bone loss? Removing those things in and out must really be a pain... :-(

Infections aren't always obvious NEW
by: Anna

Also I wanted to add, shockingly dentists aren't very good in recognizing infections, unless there is blood and pus oozing from it. My gum was infected for a month on an implant, gum tissue felt weird/raw and there was bad taste/smell coming from the area. Went to dentist (and mind you, I have a good dentist), he said he could not see anything wrong! However he did put antibiotic paste in the gum around it on my request, as a precaution. I also asked to rinse with peridex. A week later, everything is gone and gum feels completely normal. There has been some minor gum shrinkage, probably because of the infection. Glad I was proactive and insisted on early treatment! Should I waited, might have lost significant volume of gum/bone or an implant alltogether.

dental cement NEW
by: Ron

Hi all, I had three molar implants and things seemed to go well until my dentist sent a picture to the implant specialist and he hurriedly told her he was seeing way to much dental cement in the xrays and it would cause massive gum recession and bone loss if not treated right away. Well I went to a periodontist and be had to cut the gums and scrape out a LOT of extra cement. He also performed a tissue graft. He stated I was lucky I caught it before to much damage was done. He recommended screw retained implants in the rear of the mouth and immediate xrays after cement retained implants to catch EXTRA cement early. Lesson learned by me, all dentist don't know that extra cement cause gum recession and catastrophic implant failure. Good luck and ask your dentist about screw retained implants to avoid this problem altogether.

To Ron NEW
by: Anna

Ron, screw retained implants have a micro-gap between the screwed-in crown and the abutment which is located under the gum and is impossible to clean. Bacteria accumulate there and cause inflammation. So neither implant type is always superior to another, and both depend a lot on the skills of the dentist. My dentist prefers screw retained implants because the crown can be taken off if needed for cleaning, adjustment etc. While in the cement retained implants, the crown needs to be replaced ($1000 out of your pocket). Also, a good implant dentist will evaluate your occlusion and overall oral health and would know which implant type is best. I have one cement, and one screw - retained implants and both do well. There is really no cookie-cutter solution to this, other than select a good implant dentist.

ES, maybe you are allergic to implants or grafts NEW
by: Anonymous

Hi ES, have you ever been evaluated for allergies to metals in the implant, and/or the bone graft material? There is this study that showed unexplained implant failure may be due to allergies, and may take several years to occur.

Implants are not the cure all as advertised NEW
by: Doug Childs

Got about $16,000 done on my implants at Eastman Dental Center in Rochester, NY I have had bone graphs and gum transplants. The pain and time spent on these implants are not worth it for me. I need another gum transplant on several of the implants and I don't know if I will do it....too painful and does not work in lots of cases. Implants are not permanent no matter what they say. Should have gotten false teeth and save tons of money and time and pain.

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by: Deny

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Early intervention NEW
by: Ron

Hi all, I posted earlier about my three molar implants # 30,31 and 19. After receiving what I call agressive treatment the results are encouraging. My gum tissue graft took so I have a thicker gum line around the implants and oddly enough after the removal of the extra cement the boneloss seem to have reversed itself and grew back over three months so I don't need a bone graft at this time. Now that the gum tissue is thicker,I see ANNA is correct the implants now feel absolutely normal with no blood or bitter tastes in my mouth.As for screw retained or cemented implants again Anna is correct my general dentist decided that because I have a strong bite screw type implants may not have been a good fit for me.I hope the original poster found a good dentist because implants are costly and should be continuallly monitored by a peridontist,general denist and more importantly yourself. Thanks all, I hope this helps someone to know that failing implants can be saved with the right treatment plan.

Got to the DOC!! NEW
by: Tanning Hart

Now this could be really a problem for you. Try to see a doctor as soon Stacy Adams boots as possible. This is a possible reason for infection. I think the implant has gone wrong on this one. Get it fixed as fast as possible.

implants showing, final work not completed yet NEW
by: Anonymous

had 5 extractions last May and 4 implants upper to support a bridge. had bone grafts.implants have not yet been "uncovered" for bridge impressions as I am waiting for the 5 year mark for insurance reimbursement. 2 of the implants are showing like this, not through bottom of gum, but front . Every time I see my dentist he shakes his head and acts like I am causing this and how we need to hurry up and move on with the final bridge, that it is tge temporary denture (flipper) causing this. I dont trust him now and question his explanation. He wants to proceed as he said the way my smike is, what is showing now wont show, unkess my lip is kifted up of course. I am worried about function and tge impkants failing. Any ideas?

in the original poster.. no bone at all nite! NEW
by: ESA

I would not(hindsight is great) have any teeth removed in front. if implant/bone graft doesn't work, you have no recourse. I now have no bone in front part of mouth. no teeth, have a partial, they're still trying to figure out what they can do!! I just wanna cry everyday. if I take out partial, which I only do to clean, etc, when no one can see me I look like a homeless person with no teeth,,RIGHT in the front if my mouth.. it's very sad.
I guess they don't know why it works with some but not others!! I don't drink/ do drugs, have been a vegetarian for 30 plus years. only vice coffee!! So I did everything I was supposed to do & still didn't work... lot of money wasted. plus my self confidence at times!!
Good luck..

Orig poster NEW
by: ESA

Also, my opinion, Ins didn't cover any of my implant cost. Think they might be covering something now, but I think these periodontist's make a lot of money doing implants!!

Gum recession after dental implants NEW
by: Fran

As a health care professional, I research and study the "WHY" of low BP or whatever...I did not research Dental Implants since I falsely assumed that Dentistry was a routine everyday thing..Now, after suffering through the abnormal positioning of implants, the gum recession, and trying to get any answers to why...which is impossible...I take it very very seriously. I am at a loss to find a "real" expert. I do not have as much exposure as you do but am trying to decide whether to have the entire structure replaced with grafting to follow. My perception of the dental professionals is that they don't know why recession occurs and don't indicate that they are interested in the "WHY", They just want to fix it.

Bone graft talk??? NEW
by: Fran

I have read bone...bone...bone . Is anyone claiming that all gum recession over implanted teeth must relate to the bone? Nothing of bone has been mentioned to me. Can't a tiny bit of recession just be from the pressure of a larger crown or be from a natural occurence...I have been offered bridge replacement and / or grafting of gum tissue.

Gums and bone NEW
by: Anna

Fran, gums follow the bone. There isn't going to be more than 2-3mm of gum on the bone, so if your bone has receded, so will the gums. And as a result failed or cosmetically compromised implant.

Bone on an implant is a very delicate thing, something a bit off and it will recede. Pressure or angle is a tad off, it will recede. Screw is too tight or to loose, it will recede. Infection along the gumline, it will recede. I honestly think that the majority of failed implants are related to a dentist's mistake. It takes a lot of skill to correctly place an implant. I really have no other answers to offer but to look for a skilled dentist. I think the lack of bone in the front can be corrected with taking your own bone from a hip, but it is complicated and costly.... I hope whatever you do works out for you, I can imagine it's no fun to live that way....

Thanks Anna..Where are the Dental Malpractice Attorneys? NEW
by: Fran

I suppose I need to return to school to learn dental anatomy rather than human anatomy as a health care professional. I am going to share this with the dentist, the oral surgeon and maybe a dental malpractice attorney..of which there doesn't seem to be any (even though many list themselves as one). Are you saying that the gum recession is just an extension of continued bone recession? I was told my gums were all +3...very healthy. And no bone loss was reported by the surgeon at these sites. I was told (by the periodontist that the gum recession might be due to the failure to wait a few weeks between final impression for the bridge that followed immediately after surgically removing all of the tissue that grew over those hubs or screws and then replacing them until bridge was made. The surgeon was supposed to do this but for some reason, the dentist did it. As said before, bone, bone graft has never been uttered. Are you a dental professional? I am very upset because none of the 3 professionals suggested this small recesssion of 3 implants was a big deal. Do dental experts read these forum comments? I am not letting this go...no adverse effects were ever mentioned even a little prior to my decision to have the implants. My dentist showed me a phone photo of how wonderful my teeth would look when implants completed. I like my dentist and have no reason to believe he would lie or omit possible complications. However, I hope I don't get to the point where the entire story comes out since I was totally confused on every step of the process. MAYBE implants should be considered serious surgery especially based on all that I have read on this forum..Again, thanks!!

Re: Fran NEW
by: Anna

Fran, I'm not a dentist but I do have some medical knowledge as well as did so much research when I had my own implants put in. My dentist told me that gums follow the bone. There is a limit of how thick the gum can be, you can look it up yourself. So if your bone has receded, the gum thickness won't change but it will also pull away. Do you see what I'm saying? Look it up yourself if you wish. Especially if your gums are healthy, the problem has to be the bone.

Or else there was an error in how the implant was placed. You see our jaws have certain architecture if you will. It's not possible to graft the bone where it wasn't supposed to be naturally, our body will just get rid of it. So if your dentist placed an implant post too long so it sticks too much out of the gum, the metal would show. Does it make sense? Now, I'm not saying that's your case, but these are just some possibilities.
How bad is your recession? Sometimes it receded a bit and then stops and the implant is stable. Is that so much of s bother for you that you can't live with it?

I do not understand any of this. NEW
by: Fran

There was no exposure until I brushed my teeth a few weeks ago, thinking some spinich got stuck on my teeth. It is barely noticeable but for me it is a big deal..If I look closely,I can see faint darkness at the edge of the gum on 2 front teeth. On the eye tooth that never needed removing, maybe the exposure is the width of a string of dental floss? To be clear, this process began last October,2015 and ended in March 2016. Except for the hating the angle of my teeth to gum, from right to left (which I have now accepted), there were no issues until November 9, 2016 at 5:30 pm. As explained before, I know NOTHING about dentistry and was upset at every point thinking 1) there would be a fake pink gum like with dentures 2)I assumed teeth would be separate and flossing would be normal between each tooth and 3) the word "bridge" bothered me throughout. I went in for one implant for a lost tooth, but agreed to 3 due to a root canal tooth that wasn't perfectly white and a molar tooth that had cracked and was removed last year. I ended up with 5 implants.The surgeon wanted 6 and dentist wanted 5. The two teeth removed were as solid as a rock and the exposed eye tooth was one of them.My lack of understanding of all of this is driving me crazy. I did question things but as a northerner in a southern state, I tried to be careful with my "tone"...i.e., "Why would the 2 teeth be removed? Answer, "You'd probably lose them in a few years anyway." And I am not trying to dismiss the dentists as negligent but things are not making sense. My belief system is, "When the truth is forthcoming and clear. good or bad, things make sense." Nobody has a clue as to WHY the sudden exposure occurred? If you are a medical professional, you understand that we TRY to find the etiology of illness or trauma before we just "fix" them. With sudden hypotension, we find out why..to push fluids or give Dopamine..based on the cause. The periodontist and dentist have never heard of sudden gum recession after the procedure completion was 8 months prior. I tried to think of everything as a cause. I started on Lasix the week before and wondered could it have dehydrated my gum tissue. Of course, not heard of by dentists. Sorry to have gotten off track..but No..I do not understand any of this...mainly because not one word was mentioned about bone issues or loss with regard to these teeth. I wish I could provide a picture before and after. With all I have read here, and people had fairly normal teeth prior, something seems very wrong with the implant procedure. Because there were no warning of possible consequences-that everything would be great, I saw no reason to research this. When over 30, patients are warned that having braces can cause tooth loss. Is this not the same with implants? Finally, I hear what you are saying about the gum along the bone.And so, recession just gets worse and worse because of the bone deterioration? I appreciate the info provided. Had I known any of these horrifying experiences, I would have gone with a bridge like I wanted to, to begin with for the one tooth. Before-[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o17/lindamunschauer/fran%203.jpg[/IMG] After 8 months-[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o17/lindamunschauer/fran%204.jpg[/IMG]...I am not sure these will even show up..I will meet with experts next week..thanks Anna!!!

To Fran NEW
by: Anna

Fran, I am sorry that you aren't 100% happy with your implants. It's hard for me to comment on whether removal of root canaled teeth was warranted or not. I simply don't know. But what's done is done, and the best thing you can do now is focus on making your implants work. If the recession is small, which sounds like it is, and is not getting worse, I'd suggest the best thing to do is try to see if you can live with it. We always expect perfection but sadly, it's not always possible. A little bit of metal showing on an otherwise healthy, stable implant isn't in itself a cause for concern. If the aesthetics is so bad that you can't take it, perhaps you can have crowns redone to go higher and cover the metal. Talk to your dentist if you'd like to consider that option. Other than that, things to watch for are pain, implant mobility, infection, discharge from the implant site, and worsening bone/gum loss. If none of those are present, I'd say that your implants are good... I hope that helps...

Re failing implants NEW
by: ESA

Hi Fran,
I'm original poster.My receding gum was only a little to begin with then grew much larger. As you can see the crowns that were on either side of implants the gum & bone has also receded from them. I wear a bridge, and luckily have small mouth so you can't see the part that has receded away
I have a very good dentist, I blame the periodontist, he knew I had didn't have great gums, as I had gum grafting a few years before this where they take from top of your mouth & restitch onto gums!! So what made him think that they weren't going to recede from implant!!
Don't know if I'll be able to upload pics. .

Dental Implants: Serious things to consider!! NEW
by: Fran

Thanks Anna and Esa..Unhappy is an understatement. I wish you (Esa) could add pics. I tried to but couldn't figure it out on this site...maybe not allowed. This implant issue really needs to be out in the BRIGHT SUNLIGHT..In CA, it is a big deal. Maybe that's why there are so many dental malpractice attorneys there.I am going to see the Chief of Dentistry in Buffalo, NY at SUNYAB, when I visit in a couple of months. Hopefully, I will understand more and/or get answers.

ESA NEW
by: Anonymous

I also tried to add pics but I guess it only let's u do original. If you look at pic I originally posted, & it shows just a little of bone now it's all way to top.from crown to what little tooth is left aft they put crown in, there is no gum tissue,c& in middle area bone gone all way to top of mouth..
I did call attorney's, but none of them would consider. Maybe I needed to see them in person so they could look at my mouth!! I also went to a few other periodontist & all they could say is go back to original guy. They all stick together

Receding gums NEW
by: Anna

ES, I am not a dentist but I've did a lot of research on dental implants. It seems to me that the metal rods might have been too thick for your bone. When that happens the bone layer covering the implant is too thin and the bone wastes away. This is somewhat common, especially on the upper front teeth where the bone layer is naturally thin. Your periodontist or dentist seems shady and dishonest, he should have worked with you to resolve the issues. In this case, take everything out, put a new bone graft, let it heal and do-over. But he just stuck his head in the sand. Sadly, I'm not sure what you can do, you might try to find someone who would completely redo the work but at your expense. It is very sad that there are such dishonest dentists :-( I've been with one of those, that was a nightmare.

Finally... NEW
by: Anonymous

My dentist already offered to re-do the entire bridge thing at no charge..and the surgeon offered to pull the gum down (pedicle graft) at no charge. It was the periodontist consult that wanted to do grafts 2 grafts/2 teeth/$2000.00. I am thinking....What does taking out the temporary cement and crowns do? Does it tamper and move or make things worse? I want the grafts offered by the surgeon..However, the periodontist, not knowing where I got my information, claimed that pedicle grafts were not allowed by protocol. We'll see. I will probably have it all re-done but do want to speak to another "expert" far from where I live. BTW,as an LNC, when looking for an attorney, avoid consulting one in or near the city where you live. Where is the moderator? Can't we post pics?

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by: Fran

sorry..forgot to add my name

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